Charleston Real Estate Market Statistics | Charleston New Home Sales Market Research
Brad,
I forget now how I came across your CMR, but look forward each time to reviews. I have chuckled at how much we have been aligned over the last two years…simple logic as the fundamentals just don't align and a collapse was inevitable. That said, this last CMR was particularly refreshing and your last paragraph was spot on. Hopefully, a nation on fire, is the beginning of a better nation, community, family, etc.
Anyway, thanks for your free advice, perspective and overall enjoyable disposition. Take care and all the best.
J.A.
Hi Brad,
Thanks for your insights. They are appreciated.
K.S.
Brad,
Just a simple Thank You. I enjoy reading your emails and reports.
C.B.
Brad,
I have wanted to thank you for some time for all of the work you do to help fellow investors. I am amazed at how well you have predicted the turns in the markets. I consider my self to be a real estate investor but when I began my journey into that market around 2002 I could not bring myself to do many deals as I believed a crash was imminent and I was competing with irrational buyers and sellers.For that reason I only have a few relatively safe long term real estate holds and about 40K in Mutual funds that were worth 66K earlier this year. H.C.
“Probably the best speaker yet!”
“The speaker was excellent! His compilation and analysis of data will undoubtedly be helpful in the RE market.”
“Very good information.”
That was the feedback from our mastermind members after hearing Brad Rundbaken, founder of www.charlsetonmarketreport.com, speak at our July 22nd 2008 meeting.
Brad's expertise as a provider of real estate information and market research services to investors was very helpful in understanding what the Charleston real estate market is currently doing....and what we could expect in the future.
Charleston Real Estate Investors Association
Brad,
I continue to express my appreciation for your visiting my MBA classes in Real Estate Finance/Investing at The Citadel. I have to tell you that, in my opinion, each of your market reports is worthy of being published in academic/practitioner publications dealing with real estate investing. It is unfortunate (in my opinion) that only a portion of the practitioners in the greater Charleston real estate market will take the time to thoroughly read and benefit from the multitude of valuable pieces of information that you present in your quarterly report. The seasoned pros that read and study your report will surely gain a competitive advantage from subscribing to your (surprisingly) free report. My many years as a consultant and expert witness in finance prompt me to suspect that some local and well-funded realty investors are probably paying handsome sums for consultant studies providing information that pales in comparison to the Charleston Market Report information that you provide and analyze for free!
Thank you for providing the Charleston Market with valuable local real estate data and giving us your concise and candid assessment of local market trends and outlook. Before I put my money in the Charleston market, I read your Charleston Market Report.
Best wishes,
Dr. Sam G. Berry
Visiting Professor of Finance
The Citadel
Brad,
My Real Estate Finance and Investment class and I again thank you for your many forms of support. Your visit to our class in The Citadel MBA program was most appreciated, especially the valuable market information you brought us. All four of the project teams in the class made good use of The Charleston Market Report in their research; you were quoted and referenced in their presentations and written reports. They particularly enjoyed hearing your perspective on studying the real estate market in ways similar to your past studies of the stock markets. Your graphical analyses in the Report greatly aid in spotting the trends, turns and current status of the local real estate market. I can easily foresee your market report becoming the most relied-upon information published in the area. You are researching and writing on a market - - not producing a sales piece. We were also pleased to have you visit with us to be an observer as they presented their research projects of: (1) converting a 4-unit apartment site to a 2-unit, upscale condo site, (2) locating and developing a subdivision, (3) renovating and selling a house, and (4) locating and developing a franchised motel. Your comments gave them useful guidance which they were able to incorporate into their final, written reports.
I look forward to reading and using your report in my teaching and in my own investment activities in our Charleston area market. Best wishes for continued success,
Best wishes,
Dr. Sam G. Berry
Visiting Professor of Finance
The Citadel
Hi, Brad.
I stumbled across your web site yesterday! It is awesome...a wealth of information. As they say frequently say at my job, "You Rock"! I honestly do love your web site and your monthly newsletter/blog. The information is great! Keep up the great work.
I'm in the preliminary stages of getting an investment property in the Charleston area. I'm thinking a vacation rental that I can rent out part of the year, and use as second home for myself, my family and friends the other parts of the year. Otherwise, if the numbers don't work for this approach, I'd probably just do a regular rental property.
I'm trying to determine the average rental rates, occupancy rates for areas such as west ashley, james island, mt. pleasant, seabrook. Also, I'm trying to determine vacation rental rates by the week and peak/off-peak seasons.
Would you happen to know of a web site or anything where I can find this information so that I can crunch some numbers (cash flow, depreciation, insurance, etc) to determine if this is a good move for me?
Thanks,
Staci
Brad,
I have spent a great deal of time studying stock market trends and bottoms. So many times in my life I used my gut to buy or sell based on news or by comparing a stocks current price to recent prices, only to have the price drop further. Next panic sets in. As you state, understanding trends is paramount.I am also convinced there is a "force" that controls stock market bottoms. I am guessing there is not a "force" that controls real estate price bottoms so it would be best to determine a change in trend before buying.
My wife and I are interested in buying a condo in Myrtle Beach. My sister and her husband already own one there and have informed us of condos for sale. Last month one was listed for $525k. Yesterday they called about one that is for sale for $475k. Just like my uniformed approach to the stock market, I am thinking these prices sound great based on prices of a year ago. But I catch myself and wonder what data I could use to make a purchasing decision. Unlike the stock market, the real estate market does not have simple stop losses. Which real estate indicators would tell me the price trend has bottomed or is reversing? I did an Internet search and came across your website.You are using data to show real estate trends, I love it.
Thanks
Carl
Brad,
My name is RW from Summerville. I discovered your website about a week ago and I'm so glad that someone here in the tri-county area who works in the real estate biz decided to pull their head up out of the sand and start telling the truth about the real estate market.
Add me to your list of anecdotes of buyers who are preferring to sit on the sidelines for now. I can wait until greedy sellers finally wake up to the fact their homes aren't ACTUALLY worth 50 to 100 percent more than they were 3 years ago just because they slapped a coat of paint on the dining room and threw some pine straw in the flower beds! The gold rush mentality has gotten just about everybody in this area forgetting what they learned in high school economics. The basic laws of supply and demand still apply, even to the housing market. Your website captures these truths and presents them in a very thorough and convincing way.
My wife and I moved to the area because of a new job back in November of '05. At the time, everyone was telling us we had to buy a house immediately even if we hadn't sold our previous home yet. My first impression was that homes were overpriced, and after some research I found that appreciation rates had been in the 20% range for the area for the previous year. There were also 60,000 homes either under construction or planned for the next 5 years! I took a gamble and bucked what everyone here was telling me and decided that I would rent a place until our old house sold.
I can't tell you how many heated arguments I started then by merely suggesting that 20% price appreciation cannot be sustained every year, even here in paradise. People really seemed to take the suggestion personally. I heard all of the standard lines from coworkers, agents, and friends, "If you don't buy now, you'll never be able to afford a house becasue the prices will continue to skyrocket," "All of the baby boomers are retiring to the coast, the local market will keep booming and you're going to miss out," "Interest rates are still at historic lows but they're going up, you'd better buy now."
Well, our house finally sold in July. As a person completely relieved to have unloaded a house in a cooling market, I'm even more wary of buying now. The last thing I want to do is sink all of our savings into a house that may be difficult to sell or, even worse, lose value in the next few years. We have a lease through March and I'm perfectly comfortable sitting on the sidelines at least until then. Our proceeds are in a money market account earning interest, waiting for an opportunity to snatch up a "bargain."
I'm not rooting for a crash in prices. That's not good for anyone. I do plan to buy eventually. I'm just glad that the immutable laws of supply and demand have given some of us buyers a chance to catch up to the affordability curve.
Again, thank you for your website. It puts all of the data in one place. I hope more people open their eyes and pay attention.
Thanks,
RW
Dear Brad,
It is great that there is finally a source for the “real” story in the real estate market in Charleston.
We have only lived in Mount Pleasant for a year now, but are finding the real estate market here to be incomprehensible. We are from Washington, DC, where the market is very efficient. If your house is not priced correctly, you know it in about 10 days – not 10 months. For example, this is the only town where if your house doesn’t sell in a few months, you raise the price!
Also, houses that agents are attempting to “flip” with a 10% profit in the space of weeks. Homeowners who bought less than a year ago attempting to sell at profits of 30-40%. They are holding firm on their prices too! This is ongoing even in the face of bloated inventories and dropping sales.
How is it that this is the only place in the U.S. where people don’t realize that the housing bubble is bursting. Don’t they notice the months and months houses sit on the market and the exploding inventory?
Also, we don’t understand why only new houses seem to be selling. Isn’t this counter to the usual trend in a housing slow down?
Your insights would be greatly appreciated. We are so confused and what to buy a larger home. We just can’t stomach paying someone 35% more than they paid a year ago in a declining market!
Regards,
CK
Brad,
This is T with Prudential, we spoke on the phone last week.
I just want to say congrats on sticking to your principles and your very thorough, and in my opinion, professional, response to what has been said and done by various parties in our industry, since the article and the founding of your report.
I find your report and it's information very valuable in helping properly consult my real estate clients, whether it be to invest, buy for personal use, or sell, and I'm sure many feel the same way. I know my clients want to hear market reality "as it is", and your report helps.
Good work, and I wish you the best, I'm pulling for you, your principles, and your report!
T
Dear Brad,
I wanted to write you and thank you for your very informative web page.My wife and I were looking at single family homes in the Mt.Pleasant area just this Labor Day weekend. We're ready to leave Florida for all the obvious reasons and have narrowed our retirement area search to Mt. Pleasant, Hilton Head or the Asheville/Hendersonville area.
I came across your web page after our last house hunting trip through a "Google" search. Being a finance and economics guy, I appreciate the effort and time it must of taken you to compile all that data into such a user friendly format.Your charts verify everything I was telling my wife. I noticed many more spec houses and town houses, on the market in Mt. Pleasant, compared to the other areas we looked into. It seemed every NEW house the real estate agent showed us was owned by someone she knew in the real estate business and they were "motivated" to sell.
Since we are not in a hurry and Mt. Pleasant is our first choice, we are going to wait the market out and will be watching for your trends to turn favorable.We put a $590k offer in on a "behind the gate" house that was listed for $690k, and the seller countered back at $660k. We told them, "No thanks." Two days ago, they sent us an email asking us back in the game at $630k. We are still mulling it over.
I truly believe that your web page and some input from zillow.com saved us a nice chunk of change $$-keep up the great work! Thanks again.
Kindest Regards,
M E
Brad,
Just wanted to let you know, that I think your report is great. I can tell a lot of hard work went into it. I have just moved from the New Jersey area and playing the wait game on purchasing a home. When I first decided to move here I looked for a report like yours and couldn't find anything. I even called the Trident MLS system and they had no clue what I was talking about. In NJ there is a company that produces a similar report to yours, except yours is better.
http://www.otteau.com/The_Otteau_Report/the_otteau_report.html
I included the link to compare. Thank you for this information and your hard work.
Connie
Brad:
After reading the apology by Atlantic Appraisals in today’s business section, I had to go back and re-read the original articles. I guessed that the “controversy” would be about the local housing market. When I read the articles a few days ago, I thought “now there is somebody who understands the issue” It was refreshing after reading all the mindless drivel from local bankers and real estate agents that the housing market would keep going up forever. Sounds like the same hype with the stock market in 1999.You hit the issue right on target. The run away, out of control mortgage industry is a large part of the problem, and I guess the appraisal industry are accomplices.
Keep up the good work.
Al
Brad,
Ijust recently moved to Mount Pleasant, I leased a brand new home with a short term lease. I sold my house in Delaware and moved here at the end of June.
I could see what was happening last Sept, so I put my house on the market, I luckily managed to sell and make a nice profit. I feel that I was one of the last to get out the door. I have been coming to Charleston for 10 years because of a son at Charleston AFB. I am now a bubble sitter. I am retired, 67 years of age, a Business High School Teacher for 36 years in the state of New Jersey. Every indicator of the housing markets is available to everyone; all you have to do is read, but unfortunately todays society wants instant everything. Everything you point out I have been aware of for the last year or more and you are entirely correct on the statements you made about the lending industry. The number of adjustable rate mortgages coming due in 06 and 07 is in the trillions of dollars; there are going to be a lot of banks and lending institutions in the real estate business, people don't know that the short term instruments are tied to short term rates; not the long bonds on a 30 year mortgage.
I am sitting waiting for the home prices to recede. Mount Pleasant seems to me the one that should have one of the largest declines due to the fact they went up the fastest and will fall the fastest. i.e. Naples, San Diego, Florida in general. I feel this current market is going to last through 07. My Realtor disagrees with my outlook but I find in general from the local newspaper to local area governments all have their heads in the sand and are totally unaware of whats going on nationally.
Your site is very comprehensive and extremely well done. I am extremely happy to find your site to keep me informed; if you have any ideas on areas for me to look at I would appreciate your views. I have a site that I follow every day, It is called thehousingbubbleblog.com very informative nationally. Being in the Business Area all my life and in a family business I have been cursed with an extremely active mind, its going all the time and the current housing trend just increases its activity. It's extremely unfortunate that you were fired for telling the truth about current market conditions but that seems to be the mindset here in this area, I have to keep biting my tongue all the time at what I see and hear.
Sincerely
M M
I know you spent months preparing this one. It is great! I am sending to a lot of my friends that will appreciate it!
Talk to you soon.
Patty
Thanks for your report, Brad.
I'm sure I'm not alone in appreciating all the work you must put into your report. I read it with great interest.
JM
Brad-
Yes, we currently live in Charleston. We moved here a few months ago and after seeing the meltdown in Florida we were very cautious about buying. I actually came across your site after we had been through many homes with a Realtor and felt that the market was too unstable right now. I lived in Houston during their big housing bust in the ‘80s and I am very conservative when it comes to big housing investments.
I love your website and have sent several friends to it. It is great to actually see the numbers instead of relying on Realtor cheer leading. I think it was Housingdoom that tracked national appreciation, or depreciation, by quarters over the last couple of years and that would be really cool to see on a local level.
Thanks for all your work,
BC
Dear Brad,
Thanks for the reply.
It does seem that Charleston is definitely in the “denial” stage.
We bought a home here in Hibben a year ago, thinking that we would move in a year. (Our house in D.C. sold so quickly, that we only had 3 weeks to find a house – and last year inventory was very slim). Now, as we look for a larger home, we realize that we probably won’t be able to sell this house, even if we could get a fair price on the next house.
I worked as a stockbroker for Merrill Lynch for 5 years and know what a market correction (crash!) is. The trend is your friend –
that’s true, but you also don’t “want to try to catch a falling knife” either (one of our Merrill Lynch sayings). In my opinion, this is a market crash of the magnitude that we have never seen or experienced before in the recorded history of the real estate market. You can’t have a fundamentally unsupported (no rise in income or similar economic growth during this time frame) rise in home prices of 100% or more in 4-5 years without experiencing a catastrophe when the artificial support of this market collapses (interest only and option payment loans). I agree totally with you that this disaster will be completely due to the mortgage companies and their fueling of the market with exotic mortgage products. The only other scenario is really a complete shift in the way people purchase their homes from a 30 year fixed mortgage to interest only or negative amortization as the new standard (or maybe 50 year notes?). I don’t know, but I do think that the next 2-3 years will be a blood bath. It will just take longer to unwind that the stock market did. Unfortunately for you (as you were fired for being the messenger), the Charleston market seems intent on hiding this fact (real estate agents, mortgage brokers, appraisers are all trying their best to keep this from the public for their own self-preservation). In Washington, D.C. this reality was much more publicized and the smart agents were upfront and honest in their appraisals and recommendations. As I said, it was a much more efficient market and you really couldn’t try to control the market in this way.
The only real question is, what’s the next big investment! Ha! I wish I knew. But too many people made easy money on real estate (just like they did in the stock market) and that won’t happen again in our lifetime.
Given all that, we still want to buy a house. We just want to pay the right price. We made an offer on a house in Olde Park in April of this year. The offer was about $400,000 less that the asking price - $1,195,000 (but the asking price was a phenomenal 40% more than the purchase price 15 months previously – purchase price was $1,100,000 and the asking price at that time was $1,596,000 - reduced from $1,795,000!). We didn’t even get a counter offer. (P.S. the house is still on the market now – I think it has been sitting for 11-12 months now, now priced at 36% more than the purchase price less than 2 years ago, $1, 495,000). Our feeling was that the house might have appreciated 10% the first year, but we weren’t wiling to offer any increase beyond that. So our offer was in line with that. (By the way, nothing was done to the house in improvements).
We really do need an agent who will fight for the price we think is fair. We aren’t trying to do anything but get a reasonable price that will hold up over this correction. We will definitely keep you in mind if a house comes on the market that we might want to buy.
Thanks again. Feel free to use my comments as a testimonial.
Regards,
CR
Brad,
Thanks for all that you do. I look forward to your report each month, and recommend it to everyone I know in the business.
When are you going to start charging? I'm willing to pay because the information is really valuable.
Bob